Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 17

04/12/2007 01:30 PM House TRANSPORTATION


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+ HB 185 MUNICIPAL ROAD SERVICE AREAS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 185(CRA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
* HJR 18 OPPOSE FED AVIATION FUEL TAX INCREASE
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
HJR 18-OPPOSE FED AVIATION FUEL TAX INCREASE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:09:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHANSEN announced  that the final order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE JOINT  RESOLUTION NO. 18, Opposing the  enactment of the                                                               
provisions   in  the   Next   Generation  Transportation   System                                                               
Financing  Reform Act  of 2007  that increase  aviation fuel  and                                                               
aviation gas taxes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  made a motion  to adopt CSHJR  18, Version                                                               
25-LS0830\C,  Kane,  4/10/07, as  the  working  document.   There                                                               
being no objection, Version C was before the committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:09:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SONIA  CHRISTENSON,  Staff  to  Representative  Johansen,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature, provided the following testimony:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     HJR 18  is a resolution  opposing the enactment  of the                                                                    
     provisions in  [Federal Aviation  Administration] FAA's                                                                    
     Next  Generation  Air Transportation  System  Financing                                                                    
     Reform Act of 2007 [Next  Gen] that imposes air traffic                                                                    
     control  user  fees  and increases  aviation  fuel  and                                                                    
     aviation gas taxes.   ...  As you all  know, because of                                                                    
     Alaska's  unique  geography  and limited  road  access,                                                                    
     Alaska depends heavily  on aviation for transportation,                                                                    
     medical  needs,  mail   distribution,  recreation,  and                                                                    
     supplies  and  goods.     With  the aviation  fuel  and                                                                    
     aviation gas tax increase,  FAA's legislation, ... also                                                                    
     called  "Next   Gen,"  will   make  flying   much  more                                                                    
     expensive  for  Alaskans  and  increase  the  price  of                                                                    
     shipping   goods   and   supplies.     With   the   FAA                                                                    
     legislation,  air   traffic  control  user   fees  will                                                                    
     decrease  the  Congressional  role in  determining  FAA                                                                    
     spending.   This gives  more power to  the FAA  to make                                                                    
     decisions   for   all   airports,   not   taking   into                                                                    
     consideration Alaska's special  needs, and favoring the                                                                    
     needs of larger airline hubs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:11:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  asked whether  there has been  any contact                                                               
with Alaska's Congressional delegation on this matter.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHRISTENSON replied  no, although she said that  she has read                                                               
that Alaska's Congressional delegation has yet to comment on it.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN inquired  as to the economic  impact of the                                                               
Next  Gen legislation  on Alaska.   He  noted that  although this                                                               
would impact  a large  number of small  airplanes, it  would also                                                               
impact the Ted Stevens International Airport.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHRISTENSON indicated that she could research that.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHANSEN  announced that he  doesn't intend to move  HJR 18                                                               
at this time.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:13:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILFRED RYAN, President, Alaska  Air Carriers Association (AACA);                                                               
President,  Arctic Transportation  Services,  explained that  the                                                               
Alaska  Air  Carriers  Association  represents  a  diverse  group                                                               
ranging  from   single  pilot  operators  to   [Federal  Aviation                                                               
Regulations] FAR-Part  121 regional  and national carriers.   The                                                               
AACA  objects to  the  concept  of the  Next  Gen, especially  in                                                               
regard to expanded  user fees.  He highlighted  that the industry                                                               
already  pays skill  taxes, passenger  ticket taxes,  and freight                                                               
taxes.   Mr. Ryan informed the  committee that the Next  Gen also                                                               
eliminates  the  current passenger  ticket  and  freight tax  and                                                               
implements a  fee associated with  the use of the  Federal Airway                                                               
System  and communications  network.   Additionally, part  of the                                                               
federal  proposal removes  Congressional  oversight  of the  FAA.                                                               
Mr. Ryan  then related that the  AACA objects to any  change that                                                               
grants the  FAA independence  from Congress.   He  suggested that                                                               
the resolution should  be amended to reflect the  position of the                                                               
Alaska Air Carriers Association,  consistent with the opinions of                                                               
its  membership.   The  aforementioned  requires  more time,  and                                                               
therefore he recommended that the  resolution remain in committee                                                               
until the AACA  fully develops amendments to  the resolution that                                                               
appropriately address the issues.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:15:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  asked  if  there is  a  deadline  for                                                               
responding to the federal legislation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN  related his understanding  that [AACA] has  through the                                                               
end of  this month, and perhaps  into May, to draft  positions on                                                               
the federal legislation.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  highlighted  that  the  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature  should  have  completed  its  session  by  mid  May.                                                               
Therefore,  if the  resolution is  held in  committee, the  state                                                               
won't be able to comment on  the matter.  She related her concern                                                               
with regard  to the Next  Gen, but  expressed her hope  that AACA                                                               
could forward its objections within  the next two weeks otherwise                                                               
the  state will  forego  its opportunity,  as  a legislature,  to                                                               
comment  to Congress.   She  suggested that  perhaps if  AACA has                                                               
further objections,  those could  be addressed as  the resolution                                                               
moves through  the process.   She then  asked if AACA  objects to                                                               
anything in the current version of HJR 18.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN  related his understanding  that Congress is  willing to                                                               
move forward  on the  Next Gen on  May 10th.   He then  noted his                                                               
agreement that  HJR 18 needs  to move quickly through  the House.                                                               
He  said that  it  would take  no  more than  a  week to  suggest                                                               
amendments  to HJR  18.   Mr. Ryan  clarified that  the committee                                                               
needs to  understand that while  the user fee impacts  the single                                                               
pilot  and the  small 135  operators, it  benefits the  large 121                                                               
regional  national  carriers.   He  related  that AACA  would  be                                                               
comfortable moving HJR 18 forward with a few amendments.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH said  that she  didn't oppose  waiting                                                               
one  week.    She  then  requested  clarification  regarding  the                                                               
initial concern with moving HJR 18 forward.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN  explained that the  original HJR 18 only  addressed the                                                               
fuel tax  user fees.   While AACA is  opposed to the  increase on                                                               
fuel tax  fees, it must  take care that AACA's  entire membership                                                               
benefits.    Therefore, AACA  is  attempting  to find  a  balance                                                               
between  the new  taxes  imposed on  single  pilot operators  and                                                               
small  on-demand charter  organizations along  with the  benefits                                                               
created for  some of the  larger main  line operators.   The AACA                                                               
would like  to add language  to address the fees  associated with                                                               
the  air   traffic  control  system  to   which  AACA  disagrees.                                                               
Furthermore,  AACA objects  to the  elimination of  Congressional                                                               
oversight of the FAA.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  requested  that  further  information                                                               
regarding how the higher level  companies will benefit be emailed                                                               
to her.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN explained  that passengers pay a 7.5  percent excise tax                                                               
on every  ticket purchased.   The regional and  national carriers                                                               
operate long-haul  routes with high-cost  tickets.   For example,                                                               
7.5  percent on  a  $1,000  roundtrip ticket  amounts  to $75  in                                                               
excise tax.   The proposed fuel tax reduction  for those carriers                                                               
benefits  the  large  carriers tremendously.    Currently,  small                                                               
operators  and 135  on-demand tour  operators don't  pay any  tax                                                               
associated with the carriage of  passengers, and thus they face a                                                               
quadruple  increase.   Therefore, AACA  is attempting  to find  a                                                               
balance between the two groups.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:21:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN inquired  as to the meaning of  121 and 135                                                               
carriers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN  explained that 135  carriers operate with  airplanes of                                                               
less  than 10  passenger seats  while 121  carriers operate  with                                                               
more than 10 passengers seats.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:22:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDY  CEBULA,  Executive   Vice  President,  Government  Affairs,                                                               
Aircraft  Owners   and  Pilots   Association  (AOPA),   began  by                                                               
informing  the  committee that  the  Aircraft  Owners and  Pilots                                                               
Association  represent  more  than   411,000  pilots  across  the                                                               
country  and  over  4,200  pilots  in the  State  of  Alaska  are                                                               
members.    Mr.  Cebula  highlighted   concerns  with  Next  Gen,                                                               
including the tax increase, the  imposition of user fees, and the                                                               
loss of  Congressional control and  oversight of the FAA.   There                                                               
are also  cuts in federal investment  in airports.  In  regard to                                                               
the tax  increase, he explained  that the initial  increase would                                                               
be $.50 per gallon and could  increase further.  He then informed                                                               
the committee that  on average over the last two  years the price                                                               
of  aviation   gasoline  has  increased   by  $.68   per  gallon.                                                               
Therefore, this proposed  tax would add an additional  $.50.  Mr.                                                               
Cebula noted that there is already  a drop in aviation fuel sales                                                               
as  a  result of  the  price  increase.   In  fact,  the sale  of                                                               
aviation  gasoline  reached a  five-year  low  last year.    More                                                               
importantly, 80 percent  of the members of AOPA  have stated they                                                               
will reduce their flying if this tax is implemented.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CEBULA then turned to the  user fees.  Although currently the                                                               
user  fees  aren't a  well-defined  proposal,  the FAA  wants  to                                                               
target large  and small commercial  operators with fees  on their                                                               
use of  the air traffic  control system,  he explained.   In some                                                               
areas, primarily  around large cities, general  aviation would be                                                               
affected.  At  this point, there is no city  in Alaska that would                                                               
be  impacted   for  general   aviation  flights,   although  many                                                               
commercial operators would  be impacted.  Mr.  Cebula related, as                                                               
has been observed in other  countries, once a federal bureaucracy                                                               
has the authority  to impose user fees, it will  only expand that                                                               
authority.   Therefore, he fully  expected that the  fees charged                                                               
will  be increased  as well  as the  scope of  what they  will be                                                               
charging for  the fees.   The federal  legislation gives  the FAA                                                               
the ability  to unilaterally raise fees.   The only appeal  is to                                                               
the  U.S. Department  of Transportation,  which  results in  very                                                               
little oversight, he stated.  Mr.  Cebula opined that it's not in                                                               
the state's best interest for  aviation and the community to have                                                               
bureaucrats  in Washington,  D.C., making  decisions without  the                                                               
oversight to ensure the state's needs  are met.  In regard to the                                                               
airport  spending  side,  the  desire   is  to  cut  the  overall                                                               
investment in airports by $1  billion, which would eliminate some                                                               
of the  entitlements for  the smallest airports  in Alaska.   The                                                               
aforementioned  would also  reduce the  rate of  the entitlements                                                               
for  other general  aviation airports  in the  state.   He opined                                                               
that the  FAA doesn't  need to do  the aforementioned.   Although                                                               
[the U.S.]  needs to  modernize its  air traffic  control system,                                                               
Congress's own  General Accountability Office and  the Department                                                               
of  Transportation  Inspector  General  have all  said  that  the                                                               
existing taxing  mechanism can be used  to finance modernization,                                                               
airports, and the operation of the FAA.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:27:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CEBULA  related that AOPA believes  the passage of HJR  18 is                                                               
important.    It's  important  because   in  Alaska  the  federal                                                               
legislation   would   cause  an   increase   in   the  cost   for                                                               
transportation  and  would  lessen   the  attention  on  the  air                                                               
transportation  needs   for  Alaska.     Therefore,   Mr.  Cebula                                                               
requested   that   the    legislature   join   general   aviation                                                               
organizations like  AOPA, Alaska Airmen's, local  communities who                                                               
have formed  national aviation alliances, etcetera  to oppose the                                                               
FAA legislation.   Mr. Cebula then related to  the committee that                                                               
in a letter to one  of Alaska's AOPA members, U.S. Representative                                                               
Don  Young  said  that  he  doesn't  endorse  the  proposed  plan                                                               
submitted to Congress.   In conclusion, Mr.  Cebula requested the                                                               
committee's action on HJR 18.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:28:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. CEBULA, in response to  Representative Neuman, confirmed that                                                               
the federal  legislation would cut  up to $1 billion  for airport                                                               
improvements.  In further response  to Representative Neuman, Mr.                                                               
Cebula opined that  the federal legislation will  place the small                                                               
rural airports  in competition for  a much smaller pot  of money.                                                               
Therefore, it will be more  difficult for small rural airports to                                                               
obtain the necessary financing.   However, he noted that airports                                                               
in Alaska are  treated differently than in the Lower  48 and thus                                                               
the effect in  Alaska won't be as significant due  to the work of                                                               
Alaska's Congressional  delegation to ensure the  unique needs of                                                               
the state are known.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:29:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEE  HANSON,  Executive  Director, Alaska  Airmen's  Association,                                                               
began by informing  the committee that she is  a third generation                                                               
Alaskan who flies a 1955 Super Cub once owned by her                                                                            
grandfather.  Ms. Hanson provided the following testimony:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This resolution  is important  to general  aviation and                                                                    
     to Alaskans.   The Alaska Airmen's  Association mission                                                                    
     is  to promote  general aviation  in Alaska.   We  have                                                                    
     over  2,200 members  across the  state.   The  Airmen's                                                                    
     Association is  opposed to the FAA  refinancing act and                                                                    
     is  practically  concerned  about  the  impact  of  the                                                                    
     proposed  increase in  gas tax  in  Alaska for  general                                                                    
     aviation  aircraft.     As  you  know,   a  very  large                                                                    
     percentage  of   our  state   is  accessible   only  by                                                                    
     aircraft.   In  Alaska, the  airplane is  not a  luxury                                                                    
     item; it  is a tool.   Alaskans use airplanes as  if it                                                                    
     were a  vehicle or  a pickup  truck to  haul groceries,                                                                    
     building  supplies, fuel,  and  family  not to  mention                                                                    
     weekly  visits  to   our  remote  coastal  distribution                                                                    
     centers.     Alaskans  use   airplanes  to   travel  to                                                                    
     neighboring   communities  to   watch  rival   athletic                                                                    
     events.  We  rely on our airplanes  for recreation, and                                                                    
     hunting,  as well  as  business  applications, such  as                                                                    
     guiding,   flight  seeing,   game  surveys,   and  very                                                                    
     importantly,  search and  rescue.   The  price of  fuel                                                                    
     today  is already  a concern.   At  Lake Hood  Seaplane                                                                    
     Base,  the largest  seaplane base  in  the world,  fuel                                                                    
     costs are currently $4.67 per  gallon, which is up from                                                                    
     $2.95 two  years ago.   For those  of our  members that                                                                    
     rely on  their airplane  to commute  to and  from work,                                                                    
     this would  be a financial  hardship.  We  have members                                                                    
     that  live  remotely,   flying  their  private  general                                                                    
     aviation  aircraft   to  Anchorage  to  Big   Lake  and                                                                    
     Talkeetna.  Those  of us living in  remote villages who                                                                    
     depend solely on  aircraft will have no  choice at all.                                                                    
     Our urban  members are certainly looking  at whether to                                                                    
     fly or not.   With this increased fuel cost  you can be                                                                    
     assured  that people  will  be  flying their  aircrafts                                                                    
     less,  canceling the  perceived advantage  of increased                                                                    
     revenue from this bill tax.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The other  side of this  is that people who  are flying                                                                    
     less  are less  proficient  in  their piloting  skills.                                                                    
     Therefore,  this now  becomes a  very important  safety                                                                    
     issue.   There  will also  be an  impact on  businesses                                                                    
     that support aviation,  such as maintenance facilities,                                                                    
     avionics  shops,  part  suppliers, and  small  aviation                                                                    
     parts  manufacturers.   Many  of  these businesses  are                                                                    
     Alaskan owned and operated.   They are not large state-                                                                    
     side corporations.  In  conclusion, the Alaska Airmen's                                                                    
     Association  does not  support  the FAA  Transportation                                                                    
     Financing Reform  Act that increases aviation  fuel and                                                                    
     gas  taxes.   Adding  $.70  a gallon  to  the backs  of                                                                    
     general aviation pilots  with already historically high                                                                    
     fuel prices  is moving in  the wrong direction.   It is                                                                    
     our understanding  that the current tax  structure will                                                                    
     adequately support  the FAA  and we  want to  stay with                                                                    
     this system, which has been proven to work.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:33:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN questioned what impact this would have on                                                                 
the Civil Air Patrol and air rescue programs.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANSON replied that any increase in fuel prices will have an                                                                
impact, as it will drive up costs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:34:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM GEORGE, Alaska Representative for the Aircraft Owners &                                                                     
Pilots Association, provided the following testimony:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Of course,  we already  know how important  aviation is                                                                    
     to   the  state.     We've   got  something   over  200                                                                    
     communities  that have  no road  access,  that rely  on                                                                    
     aviation as their  main year-round link to  the rest of                                                                    
     the world.  The user fees  is a fascinating ... and ...                                                                    
     complex challenge and it  affects different segments of                                                                    
     the aviation communities in different  ways.  One thing                                                                    
     that the FAA is looking  at in this bill is essentially                                                                    
     access  to  airspace.    The   plan  charges  air  taxi                                                                    
     operators  to  land  and  take  off  at  airports  with                                                                    
     control towers that exceed certain  capacities.  And in                                                                    
     Alaska that would be  Fairbanks, Anchorage, Juneau, and                                                                    
     Bethel.  So,  there'd actually be a charge  ... for the                                                                    
     services provided  going in and out  of those airports.                                                                    
     But we  think this is,  again, merely the  camel's nose                                                                    
     under the  tent because  we've seen in  other countries                                                                    
     where these  fees have expanded  as more  services have                                                                    
     been  included, such  as weather  briefings, touch-and-                                                                    
     gos,  flight  plans,  etcetera.    Of  course,  they're                                                                    
     calculated on  the historical traffic, but  if the fuel                                                                    
     prices  and taxes  go higher,  the  flying is  reduced.                                                                    
     Then those  user fee rates  will increase to  cover the                                                                    
     FAA's  cost.   In aviation  we call  that a  descending                                                                    
     spiral or a graveyard spiral.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The other  aspect ... is  aviation safety.   We already                                                                    
     have an  accident rate that's  higher than the  rest of                                                                    
     the  country.   And there's  been a  lot of  work, both                                                                    
     with  the   Alaska  aviation  community  and   the  FAA                                                                    
     capstone  program that's  made  significant gains  over                                                                    
     the past  five years with some  pioneering work they've                                                                    
     done  in Southwest  Alaska.   However, if  pilots start                                                                    
     avoiding   services,  such   as   access  to   weather,                                                                    
     instrument  approaches,  towered  airports  because  of                                                                    
     costs  associated  ...  with those  changes,  we  could                                                                    
     actually  see a  decline in  aviation safety  which, of                                                                    
     course, is the  very thing we're trying  to turn around                                                                    
     and go the other way with.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     We've talked  about the  control of the  FAA.   Part of                                                                    
     this plan is to  establish an Air Transportation System                                                                    
     Advisory Board, which would have  the approval over the                                                                    
     user fee  system, and, as  has been  mentioned already,                                                                    
     removing Congress  more and more from  the oversight of                                                                    
     this.   And, of course,  in Alaska, ... the  impacts of                                                                    
     various FAA  mandates have really hit  Alaska hard over                                                                    
     the  years and  without our  Congressional delegation's                                                                    
     ability to get  the attention of the FAA for  us to get                                                                    
     fair and  equitable treatment,  it'd be  very difficult                                                                    
     to continue  to do  business.  So,  any move  away from                                                                    
     that,  we  think,  is  very bad  for  Alaska,  for  all                                                                    
     segments of the industry.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Finally,  on  the fuel  costs  I  can  add my  own  ...                                                                    
     personal  data point.   I  have a  small business  that                                                                    
     acquires vertical  aerial photography around  the state                                                                    
     and  last week  while working  on my  taxes, I  learned                                                                    
     that I'd  spent over  $8,000 on  [aviation] gas  in the                                                                    
     last year and an average price  of $4.88 a gallon.  And                                                                    
     that ranged  from a  low price  in Fairbanks,  which is                                                                    
     where I'm based,  at $3.40 a gallon to a  high of $7.00                                                                    
     a  gallon in  Galena.   Well, already  that inexpensive                                                                    
     $3.40 gas in  Fairbanks is up to $4.26  a gallon today.                                                                    
     So,  we've   already  seen   that  increase   and  it's                                                                    
     certainly going to be going  up proportionally in those                                                                    
     other areas.   So, adding  a $.50 fuel tax to that cost                                                                    
     is  really, again,  taking us  in the  wrong direction.                                                                    
     So, we  definitely appreciate your efforts  on this and                                                                    
     would be happy to help it move forward any way we can.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:37:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHANSEN reminded the committee that HJR 18 would be held                                                                 
over.                                                                                                                           

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